John - How long have you been with your wife?
Randy - We've been together sixteen or seventeen
years. We got married in November 1996
and I was really scared to get married.
John - Hey, man we all are. (Laughing)
Randy - (laughing) Yeah with all the divorces
but we were getting along so good. My
wife's best girlfriend got married and
I watched her face at the wedding and
that spoke to me. Then her younger brother
got married and I watched her at that
wedding and then I knew it was time. I
was worried though because everything
was going so good I thought if I got married
it would change everything. It was kind
of stupid since once I got married I thought
hey this is no problem.
John - Was this your third marriage?
Second but it seemed like three. (Laughing)
I first got married when I was really
young in Nebraska and you know my grand
daughter graduated from high school a
few years ago so that gives you a little
inch on my age. I have to use a walker
to get on stage. (laughing)
John - (laughing) Okay, that part we will not
believe. Tell me what do you think of
this whole piracy thing. I know napster
is long dead but what are your thoughts
Randy - Well, I've always thought of it as everyone
just making a cassette. It's just the
same but the problem is it's not a cassette
its digital and it sounds just like the
original. When you make a cassette for
someone there's white noise on it. I just
don't want it to screw up my royalties.
What do you think about it?
John - First hand I don't buy albums. I get
everything free from the record companies
anyway. I get at least one hundred CD's
in the mail every month so I get music
in a different way than most people. I
think the record companies cannot really
beat this thing without joining in this
and beating the piracy at their own game
and many are doing that now.
Sure there are many ways to look at it.
If the music gets out there more than
maybe someone who downloads one song will
want to buy the whole album. Maybe they'll
want the whole original thing with jewel
box and liner notes. For me personally,
I just don't want to be cheated out of
my royalties and I'm okay.
John - One of my producers Neil Thompson says
it's great for him as an artist since
it gets his music out there.
Randy - Yeah, he's right. It's great for new
artists. You know I've got three live
albums from the Eagles and they sound
John - Live albums recorded with hand held
Randy - Oh Yeah. The sound is awful. They'd
have guys with poles with mic's on them
on each side of the stage to try to get
the stereo effect but they sound terrible.
If you want the real thing buy the record.
Some body sent me an outtake CD of the
Eagles in the studio talking back and
forth to each other. I have no idea where
it came from.
John - Do you have your own outtake stuff
that you recorded with the Eagles?
Well I lost a tape of the second album
we made "Desperado." Everyday
I would go in the studio when the Eagles
would rehearse and I had one of those
early first Sony stereo's that came in
a little bag and it had two little speakers
with it. I went to Radio Shack and bought
this little cheap mic and before we would
rehearse I'd have this little mixer and
I would set up all the mics on all the
amps and the drums and everything and
when they came in I recorded it. I ended
up with a pretty good recording as cheap
as it was. I had "Doolin' Dalton"
and "Desperado" and all that
stuff. So we went to Hawaii to play and
I must have been dreaming or something
and I left that thing laying in the airport
and so someone got that cassette player
and the tape. Someday that thing is going
to show up and I can't wait.
John - What a collector's item. If someone
has it out there please contact us and
we'll get you a copy of it Randy.
Randy - Yeah, that would be great. I was so
mad that I lost it. I'll bet that it'll
show up some day unless somebody didn't
know what it was and threw it out.
John - Yeah the Eagles only had one actual
album out at that point. You weren't really
that well known yet and the stuff on the
tape hadn't been released so to an unfamiliar
person it sounded like a demo from just
Randy - Yeah that true. I think a lot of these
specialty in-studio CD's that get circulated
are put together obviously by people who
work in the studio. They have their private
little cassette recording on the side.
In some ways I think its fun. It's all
kind of fun unless it's detrimental to
John - I'll just ask a few more here. I
know you have to go but at what point
with the Eagles did you know that this
band was going to be a great financial
Randy - I'd say that happened when "One
of These Nights" came out. We were
doing a lot of gigs before that opening
up for Jethro Tull and Joe Cocker but
then everything changed. I looked at Irving
Azoff one day and said, "Boy, this
is big time now." I could tell it
was really working and all of a sudden
we got hit with all this stuff. It became
John - And that was before "Hotel California."
It must have gone really nuts after that?
Randy - Oh, Yeah really nuts and that's when
I left. I did the tour for "Hotel
John - Did the other guys know you were going
Randy - No, not really. Glen (Frey) and I got
into a little fight but it's something
that just happened and we kind of got
mad at each other and took a swing at
each other in Knoxville Tennessee. (Laughing)
At the time to me it was just like two
guys fighting but it got really bad so
at that point I just decided to leave
because I just didn't like what I was
John - Any regrets about leaving the Eagles?
Randy - Not really but I wish I could of left
in a different way though. I mean how
are you going to be nice when you leave.
John - It's interesting that you should say
that because most of us leave our love
relationships like that. Most of the time
the ending is not pretty. Later in years
hopefully it gets resolved where one person
calls the other and says, "Listen,
I don't like the way it ended" but
that doesn't always happen.
Randy - Exactly. That's the deal. You do it
and then you have to stand with what you
did. Probably the worst part of this whole
deal is all the books that were put out.
John - I read a bit of "Take it to the
Randy - Yeah, there were a couple of them. It's
like catching someone at a wrong time
when everyone was kind of angry at everyone
else. You say things that you really don't
mean. These people want the dirt and they
forget that most of the time there was
not any dirt. Most of the time we got
along really well. Years later you read
it and its dirt and you think why in the
hell did I say that about him whether
it's Glen or Henley. For God sakes were
just people. It was a time where there
was a little resentment.
John - It changes doesn't it?
Randy - Yeah, when you get older you think why
think about that stuff, it's not worth
John - It's easy for folks out there to judge
these days. There you guys were bigger
than world but what you went through was
appropriate for the circumstances.
Randy - Exactly and there's a time when you
say enough is enough. I don't hold any
grudges or hatred. Let's get on with life
and have some fun. You know with the Eagles
I was on my own all the time. All I saw
were airports, the hotel room and the
hall. Now when I do shows and my wife
comes along we go to antique shows and
we go shopping and we actually get the
feel for the city that makes it great.
John - Okay, our bodies ache more now but don't
you overall like being older and just
Randy - Oh, they ache. (Laughing) Sure, that's
true. With the Eagles there just was never
any time. We did the shows, we traveled,
and we did interviews. It was always bam,
John - In those days you guys did hang out
Randy - Oh God, we did a lot of that but by
"Hotel California" it was like
separate limo's and everybody had their
own thing going and it was just getting
kind of tiring.
John - Do you have any plans of quitting music?
Randy - Totally quitting? No, I don't think
I'll ever do that.
John - We got sidetracked a while ago talking
about the Poco/Eagles farm team thing.
Well, it's kind of wacky that you were
replaced in Poco by Timothy B. Schmit
and when you left the Eagles in 1977 he
was the guy who replaced you there.
Randy - Yeah, he's following me around. (Laughing)
He's a really nice guy. When we were inducted
in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame he made
such a nice remark giving me all the best
and saying, "Remember that Randy
did most of this work with the Eagles
not me." It was so honest and so
John - I hear you are a big Honeymooners fan?
Randy - Yeah, I watch that and Andy Griffith.
I am a down home guy.
John - Randy, it's been very special for me
to talk with you. It means a lot. Thank
you so much for your time.
Randy - John, you're very welcome. It was fun.
You take care and keep eating tomatoes.