Daryl
Stuermer Returns From Phil Collins Tour With "Retrofit"
October
27, 2004 - On Daryl Stuermer's touring
journal available on his website he wrote this about touring with Phil
Collins. "It's the greatest job one could ever have. Great Music, Great
Boss, Good Paycheck, Good Catering, Enthusiastic Fans, Travel The World,......what's
not to like!" Stuermer has been touring with Collins since joining Genesis
as a touring member in 1978. Phil Collins
"First Final Farewell Tour" is now on hiatus until next October, "Yeah
a year because Phil's wife is having a baby and we're not going to start touring
until October of next year," says Stuermer. "When we get back to it
we'll do places like Australia and Japan, South America and even some eastern
block places like Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Stuermer did tell us that no more
North American dates are planned. The guitarist has just released the new Contemporary
Jazz album "Retrofit." Read our newest and third interview with Stuermer.John
Beaudin - Hi Daryl, it's nice to chat with you again.
Daryl
Stuermer - It's nice to talk to you too John.
John
- How does it feel to get back after the long tour with Phil
Collins?
Daryl
- It's great, on one hand I miss the tours as soon as I come home but
then I also love being home so it's kind of a catch-22. (laughing)
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Genesis
1978 - Daryl Stuermer & Phil Collins |
John
- I like what you wrote on your website, "It's the greatest job one could
ever have. Great Music, Great Boss, Good Paycheck, Good Catering, Enthusiastic
Fans, Travel The World,......what's not to like!"
Daryl
- It is great. You know it's always fun unless you've been on a lousy tour but
I've never had a lousy tour with Phil Collins
or Genesis. Most of the times you make the best of whatever it is in front of
you but it's always good with Phil and that's why I put some of those experiences
on the website.
John
- You really have changed the site a lot. It looks great and there is a lot more
information on there. I also like all the new pictures.
Daryl
- We made a real effort to change the website. We just wanted to make
it more interesting and we add things weekly now and I tried to do as much as
I could with "Notes From The Road" feature. You know how it started?
I'd write home to my wife and she started saying, "Hey, you know about 75%
of this that's not personal could be put on the website." So some of it may
have been a letter or note I wrote home without the family personal stuff.
John
- Well, that's the type of stuff I loved on albums growing up.
Daryl
- I loved it on records and that's what I miss about albums actual records. CD's
are just too small you can't get all that info on there.
John
- So you fell asleep during "Shrek 2" in France, huh? (laughing)
Daryl
- (laughing) Yeah, I don't know if it's that I didn't like it that much or I was
really tired. A lot of us in the band went to see the movie and everybody was
snoring and sleeping. We had been playing many, many gigs in a row and we were
all so tired. (laughing) I don't know if I really disliked the movie, I thought
it was ok. I think the only person that didn't fall asleep was one of our backing
vocalists named Connie.
John
- You have the same band with Phil both here in North America and in Europe?
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Daryl,
Robin Williams, Brad Cole |
Daryl
- We had six backing vocalists, three female, three male, four horn players plus
the rhythm section which is bass, drums and keyboards, percussion and two guitars
so that's another six. It adds up to 16 and with Phil that's 17.
John
- Wow, that's the way to do it.
Daryl
- It's really a great show and we're all having such a great time. It's
one of those things that you savor, you're savoring the moment because it's considered
Phil's last world tour and I've had discussions about this with Phil and he doesn't
mind me saying that it doesn't mean that you're not going to see him again or
he's not going to do anything. He's looking at it as a last tour on this scale.
This arena, stadium style show with the big lights, the big screen and the large
group. I think it's the last time he wants to do this type of thing but again
it doesn't mean he won't do a one - off show on that scale just not a full tour.
I've talked to him about this and I think what he'd like to do after this is smaller
scale things like theatre shows sort of a story teller/ unplugged stuff.
John
- Well, it worked for Billy Joel pretty good.
Daryl
- I don't know if Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull came up to Canada but on this tour
he would play two or three songs then sit down and talk with a host and they'd
actually take questions from the audience and I actually did the show with him.
In each city the promoter of the tour would call ahead and find a local artist
to play with him. A local promoter put my name forward and I had to send in a
demo of a few songs and Ian heard it and picked a song I co-wrote with Phil
Collins called "The Least You Can Do" from Phil's "Testify"
album.
John
- And of course you just did that on the new album "Retrofit."
Daryl
- Yeah and that's one that I wrote all the music to and I gave it to Ian
in an instrumental form and he loved it so I went up and played "The Least
You Can Do" with him. We did the soundcheck, rehearsed it about three times
and that was it.
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Phil
Collins & Daryl Stuermer on tour 2004 |
John
- So you told Phil about it?
Daryl
- Yeah and he was really interested in that concept but remember that's way down
the line. This tour that we're on right now is hiatus.
John
- You're off for a year, right?
Daryl
- Yeah, a year because Phil's wife is having a baby and we're not going to start
touring until October of next year. When we get back to it we'll do places like
Australia and Japan, South America and even some eastern block places like Moscow
and Saint Petersburg. So the tour is not over but it is in the States, Canada
and most of Europe.
John
- WelI, I appreciated the invitation from you and your promo gal Cary
on seeing you and Phil in Toronto. Unfortunately we we're in ratings and in radio
you just don't leave your post during the ratings especially the fall book and
I work for two radio stations, two separate companies so it wasn't going to happen.
I do appreciate the offer though thanks Daryl. I do wish you and Phil and the
boys would cover the North American cities that you missed.
Daryl
- Yeah that was too bad that you couldn't make it. I even told the management
that we should have done more places in Canada especially because we only did
Montreal and Toronto. What about Edmonton, Calgary and Vancouver. I think we should
go back there and finish it off. I told Phil you wouldn't be lying if you came
back to different cities. He wanted to do this tour to say goodbye so visiting
as many places is a great idea.
John
- I read on your website that you really enjoyed the Montreal audience.
Daryl
- They were probably the best audience in North America and I say that even though
Toronto is one of my favorite Canadian cities.
John
- Speaking of when are you going to get the residuals for naming the band
Max Webster? (laughing)
Daryl
- (laughing)
John
- Ok, they were a big Canadian band, it's not the world but let me pick up the
ball on this one you could sue, sue, sue. (laughing)
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Another
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Daryl
- (laughing) I think that it's amazing because I wrote these two songs
called "Song for Webster" and "Family at Max" and these were
songs that I wrote around 1972. I moved up to Windsor with a friend and my brother
and we started this band. The bass player said why don't we name the band The
Max Webster after these two songs and that's what happened.
John
- Well, that's an amazing piece of Canadian Music trivia. It might not mean too
much for most people in the U.S. since Max Webster never really made it big in
the States.
Daryl
- When I was in Toronto I ran into Mike Tilka who was that bass player who went
on with Max Webster. He wasn't with them I don't think when they made it big in
Canada and in the beginning they were a very different band from what most Canadians
remember.
John
- Kim Mitchell was not with the band back then, right?
Daryl
- No, he wasn't. I don't know if you know this John but when we were in Toronto
with Genesis once we played this festival where we were the main headliner but
Max Webster was the opening act and it came out in a Toronto paper that I had
this connection with Max Webster. I have to tell you I've enjoyed that connection,
I think it's kind of cool.
Part
two posted November 2, 2004
John
- Are you political?
Daryl
- I am in a sense and I do have a strong view. I have never put a sign out in
front of my house and this is the first year that I did. (laughing) Our country
is totally divided, Kerry and Bush are like at 48% each in the polls. It's so
close no one can predict anything, I certainly don't know what's going to happen
here.
John
- Even the psychics can't gamble on this one. (laughing)
Daryl
- What's funny to me is when George Bush got elected, he said that he wanted to
be a uniter not a divider but if you look at what's happened so far we're still
dead even. (laughing) The country is just as separated and divided now as it was
before.
John
- It has gotten nasty! Some of the Kerry jokes are funny as with the Bush
jokes.
Daryl
- Sure some people should have a sense of humor about it and even George Bush
makes fun of it himself.
John
- I still think the economy and national safety are top billing but I still think
that it's also partially the guy who sounds the most believable.
Daryl
- Well, the trouble I have with the debates for instance is that it becomes kind
of a beauty pageant and people start talking about things that aren't relevant.
I think this time with the debates it showed a clear picture of the ideas that
these two guys have. I think you should have a clear vote depending on who you
support.
John
- I watch body language too sometimes.
Daryl
- Oh sure, their body language can tell you a lot. If you look at the body language
that George Bush had in the first debate you would think he was obviously off
his game but when they asked him the religious question which usually doesn't
come up in other countries you could tell he believed what he was saying. Kerry
didn't seem totally believable on that one. I can tell you that I'm a Kerry supporter
but at the same time I can tell you that I felt bad with his answer to that question.
It's too bad that he has to do that. Americans put so much stock on whether the
guy is a religious man. I don't think of it that way I think religion should be
out of politics. I think George Bush though says what he feels more than anybody
else it's just that you might not agree with that. If he's being steadfast you
might think that's a good quality but if you don't like that direction it's a
mute point. When I hear Senator Kerry speak I'm always thinking I wish he could
just say what he believes. Sometimes what someone actually believes scares people.
John
- Just ask the Dixie Chicks.
Daryl
- (laughing) Exactly and we're supposed to live in this country where
we're suppose to be free but there was a time especially after 9/11 that you couldn't
say anything. If you did it made you sound like you weren't patriotic. It will
be interesting to see what happens. I don't hate George Bush however I do get
offended with these emails I receive that make George Bush look bad. Like a photo
of a monkey and of Bush pointing out the similarities in their faces. That doesn't
even interest me."
John
- Well, that's just pure childish.
Daryl
- Yeah, it's childish and I don't think it's going to help their cause. If someone
knows I'm supporting John Kerry on this you really don't have to send me anything.
Watch
for part three of our interview with Daryl Stuermer - coming soon