"Behind
The Mic" With Cameron Smith of Smooth Jazz
TV
October 1, 2004 - Cameron
Smith laughs about the early days of his now successful
TV program Smooth Jazz Television, "Back
then I was hiring weekend news shooters who happened
to have gear in the trunks of their cars and God
bless them because they were the guys who helped
me create the show." Seven years and a lot
of sweat later he has one of the most popular
vehicles for promoting Smooth Jazz on the planet.
Smith who's originally from Edmonton, Alberta,
Canada has an infectious love for the artists
who created the format, "Their contribution
is a substantial commitment to the American Musical
culture, people don't understand it but it's substantial."
Cameron Smith is our "Behind the Mic"
feature Broadcaster for October. Read our Interview.
John Beaudin - Hi Cameron, well
it's nice to talk to you again. I think we should
point out to the readers on the website that
I interviewed you last week for an hour and
a half and wouldn't you know the tape in the
machine was faulty and the whole thing was lost
but here you are back to give us another go.
Cameron
Smith - It's all good John. Listen John,
I've been there I can totally relate.
John
- Well thanks. You're a real sport. Do you ever
wonder on how this show has progressed so far
after seven seasons? In the beginning you were
coaxing local TV cameramen to use the equipment
they had in the back of their cars to do some
shooting for you.
Cameron
- (laughing) Well, you know when I first started
the show I was spending a hundred dollars a
week. Back then I was hiring weekend news shooters
who happened to have gear in the trunks of their
cars and God bless them because they were the
guys who helped me create the show. We used
to chase down artists in the middle of the night
like Al Jarreau for instance to make themselves
available to us and sometimes straight out of
the shower in a couple of occasions. It's been
magical at seven seasons. It's been an odyssey.
John
- So Smooth Jazz Television is in most of the
major U.S. markets now, right?
Cameron
- We're in 23 major markets in the United States
and we're on Cool TV in Canada as you know John
and in addition to that we're on 20 airlines
globally. We have the largest broadcast in-flight
footprint and we would follow Seinfeld or Frasier
in -flight. We're on more airlines globally
than any commercially produced television product
than anybody else in the world.
John
- Hey do you ever look at the early shows? Can
you?
Cameron
- (laughing) Oh listen as a matter of fact we've
talked about creating a flashback show just
for fun but those first few episodes were God
awful but you have to start somewhere. The artists
were always very supportive but it's comical
you know when you think back to any first run
you know you'll find some juicy vintage archives.
(laughing) That's what I'll say John. (laughing)
John
- Obviously it says a lot about your
dedication and the slickness of the program
but it also says a lot about Smooth Jazz of
course. People want to see these artists.
Cameron
- Absolutely.
John
- Is it challenging the fact that a lot of artists
don't have videos?
Cameron
- Well, we found out early that unless we created
our own content there really wasn't an initiative
on the label side to support these artists because
financially it wasn't fiscally sound. It didn't
make sense for them to do anything in that area.
So for us we found out really early that unless
we were going to produce it ourselves and really
implement a sense a quality then we wouldn't
have a show. So, after the first season we started
creating our own content and it served us very
well.
John
- You also feature some great live footage of
artists as well.
Cameron
- Of course we travel the global festivals all
over the world and we create concert performance
footage that would be on par with anything you'd
see on NBC, ABC or CBS because frankly we're
in prime time in a market like Los Angeles we're
on NBC on Sundays at 3 o'clock. Our competitors
would be CMT and VH1 and BET so we have to compete
on a network level so our commitment to the
quality of the program is paramount.
John
- Come on, I think this is all happening
because you're the "New Fashion Icon of
Dallas." (laughing) ("D" magazine
in Dallas gave him the title)
Cameron
- (laughing) You know it's funny because when
they printed that I was the "New Fashion
Icon of Dallas" I told my publicist "Oh
Shit!" If I'm the new Fashion Icon of Dallas
then Dallas has a lot of problems. (laughing)
I was flattered though I must say.
John
- You have been in TV for a long time starting
back in your hometown and one of my favorite
cities Edmonton working not too far away from
the SCTV gang.
Cameron
- Yeah, I was in TV in 1974 when Second City
launched at ITV in Edmonton with John Candy,
Joe Flaherty and Martin Short hadn't arrived
yet. I was across the hall doing my show called
"Disco Daze" and so those guys would
trip over to see my show and of course I would
see them in the hallway all the time.
John
- Was there hair back then? My wife
says you have a good looking noggin.
Cameron
- (laughing) I had a pony tail and a pierced
ear I was cool.
John
- You were in the movie "The Riff"
with Nia Peeples. How did you get the part?
Cameron
- Well, I was a script consultant for the movie
and then Bernie Pollock, Sidney's brother called
me and asked me to come and read for the film
which I did and it was funny because the character
was kind of loosely based on a lot of my experiences.
The Director and writer was a friend of mine
so I came to L.A. and ended up reading for the
film and I read with Nia Peeples and Paula Abdul
and Tony Fargas and I got the part. The day
I got the gig Michelle Pfeiffer and Sidney Pollock
were shooting "What Lies Beneath"
not too far away so when I got the film I was
floored and Nia was fabulous.
John
- You did a nude scene with her.
Cameron
- I did but I had a stunt butt double though.
(laughing)
John
- Hey man, I don't need to see that! (laughing)
Cameron
- (laughing)
John
- Have there been some artists that you just
clicked with immediately?
Cameron
- Well listen, Dave Koz has been a great friend
and mentor to me. Al Jarreau has been the same
and there have been guys like Richard Elliot,
Peter White and Rick Braun who have always been
supportive of what I've been doing when it was
not fashionable to do so. Those are the kinds
of guys that I remember. Jeff Lorber has been
a person that I also really, really connected
with both personally and professionally. He's
an incredible musician and an incredible person.
That's what's so cool about this music is the
people in the music are in it for the right
reasons. If they wanted to make money in larger
terms they'd be doing rap.
John
- I hear you. Back in Edmonton when
you were doing "Disco Daze" did you
have any quality time with the SCTV people?
Cameron
- You know what they had no idea of what they
were creating and accomplishing at the time
and I was 15 but there were some moments that
I shared. The commissary was shared by the two
shows so I had a couple of cups of coffee with
John Candy when I was fifteen years old. The
guy was incredible we had some really fun exchanges
and it's something I'll never forget.
John
- Tell me what other shows your company
"Center Stage Television" is doing?
Cameron
- Sure, we create in-flight programming for
Delta Airlines. We have a show called "Departures"
which we shoot on film, it's a travelogue. We
also have a show that we've created for United
Airlines called "Connections." We
have a new Latin Rock show called "La Onda,"
it's in Spanish and it's like MTV Espanol and
then we have a couple of developmental pieces
that we're working on right now so that's what
we do.
John
- For Smooth Jazz TV are you taking unsolicited
tapes from musicians?
Cameron
- Of course, I probably get twenty projects
a week and I listen to all of them because I
think that it's important.
John
- What haven't you done yet that you'd really
like to get at?
Cameron
- Well, I want to complete a full syndication
of Smooth Jazz Television in the States. All
that we have left is the north east and the
Atlanta Miami markets and we're in virtually
every other market so I'd like to complete that
and I'd like to develop some shows that are
representative of the quality of these artists
that are more retrospective . Smooth Jazz is
twenty years old now and some of these guys
have been around for a long time. So I'd like
to start creating some documentary style shows.
John
- Like a "Biography" type show on
George Benson or Larry Carlton?
Cameron
- Yeah to try to start getting into who these
artists really are as people and really what
they've contributed is a substantial commitment
to the American Musical culture people don't
understand it but it's substantial.
John
- When I talk to the younger players they always
mention people like Jeff Lorber, George Benson,
Lee Ritenour, Grover Washington Jr. Larry Carlton,
Bob James and David Sanborn.
Cameron
- Well, that's true and I think when
that really came home to me was when Grover
(Washington Jr.) passed and I thought here's
a guy who really launched a whole musical style
and he's gone! So whenever I spend time with
the artists on camera I really try to get more
than just their standard record promotion from
them, I want to understand who they are as people
so we can share that with the audience and have
it documented. You know the last time I interviewed
Joe Sample it was the first time he'd been interviewed
for network television in almost ten years.
John
- What? Are you kidding?
Cameron
- I'm not kidding and he told me some amazing
stories about his heart attack and playing as
an opening act with The Crusaders for the Rolling
Stones. We just had a conversation on camera
that is priceless so these are the kinds of
programs I want to develop and create some programming
around. I think the stories are more than credible,
I think they're riveting.
John
- Are most of the Smooth Jazz artists
ok with TV?
Cameron
- You know what they're cool and I have to do
my homework and we talk before the interview
and they relax and they know that I'm not just
some guy spending time with them to create a
program that doesn't mean anything to them professionally.
I always want to pay them the respect that they're
do because that's so critical. I think if you're
not prepared to invest some time then don't
waste theirs, you know.
John
- You had a chance to work with Wolfman Jack,
what was that like?
Cameron
- Wolfman Jack and I did Saturday nights together
in Dallas and it was like all moons aligned
and I have to tell you that I learned more from
Wolfman Jack in a year than I did in my other
fifteen years in the radio business and I'd
never been on the air! I was always on the sales
and management side of things and he just insisted
that I be in the room whenever he was on the
air. He was eccentric that's for sure. So I
became part of the show and I became a personality
and that's what launched my confidence to become
a television personality.
John
- Is there any more acting in your future?
Cameron
- You know I'd love to do more acting but I
have to be realistic. Sure I'm in control of
my own destiny owning my own television production
company, writing and hosting the show and owning
my assets but as an actor I'm at everybody else's
mercy. I would love to do more but maybe when
I get older but not right now.
John
- Cameron thanks for pushing the music, thanks
for doing it with knowledge, heart and some
pretty damn good style.
Cameron
- Well John, thanks for everything you
do for us. It's great to spend some time with
a fellow Canadian and I'm really gratified that
you took the time to speak with me so thanks
for all your support. I'm a long way from Edmonton
but I'm still Canadian. Much love to you bro.